(BJU) I am not a current student at BJU

How this student rated the school

Educational Quality	C	Faculty Accessibility	C-
Useful Schoolwork	F	Excess Competition	B+
Academic Success	F	Creativity/ Innovation	F
Individual Value	F	University Resource Use	C
Campus Aesthetics/ Beauty	C	Friendliness	B+
Campus Maintenance	A	Social Life	F
Surrounding City	A	Extra Curriculars	A-
Safety	A+

Describes the student body as: Friendly, Arrogant, Approachable, Closeminded Describes the faculty as: Helpful, Condescending

Male

Bright

Lowest Rating Useful Schoolwork	F

Highest Rating Safety	A+

He cares more about Academic Success than the average student.

Date: Mar 06 2008
Major: Business - Management and Administration (This Major's Salary over time)
I am not a current student at BJU. However, I am a "current" graduate and I will take a bit of liberty. If you don't think my perspective is pertinent, then simply ignore it. It won't hurt my feelings.

I had a great experience at BJU. I made good friends, received an average education. While I was a student, I respected the professors as competent teachers who honestly believed what they taught. I followed the rules but I didn't know them until the day I registered. I skipped Vespers twice (rode my bike over Paris Mountain a couple of times one beautiful Spring Sunday and went to a rock quarry to shoot my .45 Auto another). I didn't want to lie about skipping required meetings so I reported myself and received 100 demerits. (It takes 150 to be expelled.)

I am embarrassed about BJU and the Pharisaical way the Joneses and the school represent Christianity to the world. I was there when Bob Jones Jr. called First Lady Betty Ford "a slut" while he "preached" to us in chapel. Such things diminish the value of a BJU diploma. I never expected university-level "Christian" educators to act like white-trash, but I really didn't know the Joneses very well before I attended BJU. Somebody, perhaps a bold Pauline Christian, should have rebuked that loud mouth then and there in front of the faculty, students, and administrators. Imagine the hue and cry that would have occurred had a student called Bob Jones Jr.'s wife "a slut". But, we all remained silent: Nobody crossed the Joneses because they were vicious, malicious, spiteful people who rightly perceived that they had been granted free rein to say and do whatever they felt like doing with impunity.

Get on the wrong side of the Joneses and they will vilify you and crucify you, publicly and privately. The staff, faculty, student body, and graduates will blindly support the Joneses/BJU, either by actively aiding the Joneses or by giving silent assent to their vicious attacks. The only "cheek" these Christians turn are the cheeks of those who disagree with them as they roast them on a spit over an open fire.

I lost faith in the leadership of BJU over the years as I watched the Joneses take indefensible positions, invoke the name of Christ and the authority of the Bible to support these positions, and then reverse those very positions as if they never held them. The Joneses, and those they leaven, act as if they are God's Chosen People and the Final Arbiters of Truth on Earth and that all who oppose them are "ungodly," "unenlightened," or "compromisers". Petimus Credimus, BJU is right and everyone else is wrong!

In one instance of Pharisaical hypocrisy and duplicity, the Joneses convinced thousands of students that the Joneses' interracial dating ban rule was based on a "Bible policy". The Joneses, BJU's faculty, and staffers like Jonathan Pait taught that the Bible forbade interracial marriage. Under the threat of expulsion from BJU, the Joneses/BJU required tens of thousands of students to read their rule and to sign the rule book promising to keep the rule. BJU propagated their interracial dating ban and claimed that it was "biblically-based".

When the IRS revoked BJU's tax-exempt status because of the rule, Bob Jones III and Bob Jones Jr. railed against the government in chapel, printed pamphlets defending the rule, prosecuted their rule all the way to the Supreme Court during a 13 year legal battle.

The Joneses begged fundamentalist Baptist preachers and churches for money to fund their legal battle to retain the interracial dating ban AND BJU's tax-exempt status. Although BJU convinced the Court that its interracial dating ban was a taught in the Bible as a "tenet of their fundamentalist religion," the Supreme Court ruled against BJU's interracial ban in 1983. In a heated public tirade in the Greenville News, Bob Jones III declared that the Supreme Court was a "heathen Court" and were the "enemies of heaven, Jesus Christ, and the Bible," and that President Reagan was "a traitor". Despite the loss of BJU's tax-exempt status, Bob Jones III declared he would hold to the ban. He did so for 17 more years.

In 2000, when George Bush spoke at BJU and the press and politicians put pressure on Bob Jones III to change the interracial dating ban, Bob Jones III went on Larry King Live and declared that the rule was "meaningless," "insignificant," and that they had never tried to support the rule from the Bible!

Bob Jones III repeatedly lied to Larry King and to his international television audience. In doing so, Mr. Jones demonstrated that he was (twice) willing to prostitute his frock. First, he prostituted his frock on the altar of racial bigotry in invoking the Bible to support his interracial dating ban. Secondly, he prostituted his frock by characterizing his so called "Bible policy" - which BJU had fought to maintain all the way to the Supreme Court - as "insignificant" and "meaningless".

Who would trust such a person to teach religion and Bible policies?

In my view, only one with the wit and the will common to blind and self-deluded cult members would knowingly submit himself or herself to such hypocritical religious leadership.

I am the father of 5 children. None of them are planning to attend my alma mater.

I have watched and listened to the Joneses for many years. I have witnessed the passionate, unconditional personal loyalty to the Joneses by the administrators, faculty, and graduates of BJU. I have also witnessed a singularly blind institutional idolatry for BJU amongst the BJU family. I have seen the BJU family wink at the viciousness and hypocrisy of the Joneses while they strain at every fault of anyone who is not loyal to the Joneses. While my children haven't seen what I have seen in the BJU orbit, they have come into contact with members of the BJU community. On their own, they detected the Pharisaical leaven of unadulterated hypocrisy that has permeated the BJU crowd.

Although Bob Jones III is the Chancellor of BJU, he still carries a "big stick" on campus. Stephen Jones knows that very well. Beware the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy at BJU.

Responses

Have you seen the facebook group asking BJU to apologize for its racial policies? It's getting some buzz with pastors etc. The formal name is "Petition for Bob Jones University to Apologize for Past Racial Policies."

Thank you for addressing this issue! I was at the university when I heard Dr. Jones III preach in chapel about the Biblical support for their ban on interracial dating. Then, years later, on the foreign field, I heard that not only had they lifted the ban (which I did not support, but could have some respect for if they truly believed it Biblical), but were now claiming it had always been an issue of pragmatism and never of Biblical requirement. I was shocked and appalled. The only thing more shocking and appalling was the response of some good friends who were, and are, big supporters of the university. Apparently, they swallowed the story hook, line and sinker and could never remember anyone ever saying the ban had been done in obedience to Scripture. It was almost as if they were brainwashed.

Re: the petition, no doubt many grads will either be afraid to have their names appear on it, or will dismiss it as the work of liberal-leaning grads www.please-reconcile.org

I attended BJU from 1979-1982. I didn't realize that they were racially bigoted. I wouldn't have cared anyway, since desegregation in schools had violence attached to it. I was glad to be in a mostly non-black school. Even today, 2008, blacks get jobs handed to them with good pay. They get this by the grace of the government; and they still fill the prisons more than any other race. Blacks are innately wilder compared to other races. I do not think that BJU should have used the Bible to support their views. I think that they should have let them apply. Most would have failed the entrance exam anyway. I do not condone black and white relationships. Time has not healed both black and white wounds.

"innately wilder"????? are you playing devil's advocate? This is a bizarre post. If you're serious, support it with Scripture.

Yes, he is serious. This is not a bizarre post, it is a racist one. Such statments are undefendable and unsupportable.

Blacks DO fill our prisons; my husband and I work with prisoners. They commit most of the crime. If blacks and whites want to date, that is their business, not mine. All races should be allowed to apply to whatever school they wish and be admitted on an equal basis. No one should get preferential treatment because of their skin color nor should they be excluded on that basis.

I also went to BJ Jr. High,Acad and Uni. A lot has been said about the Joneses in the above postings; I feel that Bob Jones Sr. would not be pleased with

how the school is now. But if we look at man, no matter who that person is, he will let you down. After all, we are all sinners. As for what is right or wrong with anything, it is the Bible that has the final word, not man. We can try to make things seem as if they are all right by comparing ourselves with others; after all, we pick the ones we want to compare ourselves against.

The real comparision should be between us and God,and that's a comparision we all fail in, even the Joneses. That is the reason that Christ had to die. So at the end of the day, we all come short of the glory of God, and we all need to accept Him. Are the Joneses sinners? YES! Is there a sin greater than other sin to God? No! Any sin will send you to Hell; only Christ can wash your sins alway.

Wait till you hear about the Jewish girl and guy that attended BJU.

Rows=6 cols=34 wrap=virtual

I beleive that when a vast majority of eyewitnesses (administration, alumni, present students past students)see something and understand something completely differently that you do, you probably should consider you might well be wrong. You demonstrate you don't respect anyone's authority, not just that of BJU. You had no idea what BJU was about before you came?! I suppose you will blame your ignorance then on someone else? And you are blaming your continuing ignorance on…? Sounds like you know some Bible words. I hope you get some understanding of God and His Word before it's too late for you.

Rows=6 cols=34 wrap=virtual

Bitter much? I graduated from BJU in 1985. As you are doing all this finger pointing, perhaps take note of the three fingers pointing back at you. All institutions have rules, and when you choose to go to an institution, you choose to place yourself under those rules. Take some responsibility for yourself and your choices. If you didn’t like it, you could have left and gone elsewhere. Perhaps it is time to put on the big boy panties, and stop the whining and mud slinging.

Ask a Question or add a response!