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Date: Mar 14 2005
Major: Economics (This Major's Salary over time)
NYU is a wonderful university. It has great dorms, amazing facilities, brilliant profs, and people in general have lots of fun there. The economics department in CAS (which is used by students in Stern as well) is one of the best in the country. NYU has also recently made several high profile faculty hires in the econ. department…I'd say its probably one of the top 5 in the nation by now (along with Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT).

That being said, people's experiences can vary. NYU has various undergraduate schools…and each has its own profile, some are great, and some aren't. The good schools of NYU are the best around, while some others are pretty much overpriced.

NYU's cream of the crop:

CAS=the academic school where the liberal arts departments are. There is also a pre-professional component which churns out doctors, lawyers, and investment bankers.

Stern=a virtual pipeline to wall street, basically a finishing school for future corporate titans.

Tisch=some really talented and smart people, and some incredibly stupid freak artists as well…I guess they each other balance out. If you want to study things like film or drama, this school can't be beat though.

Gallatin=people who can take classes in any NYU school, get credit for just about anything…a small school but seems like a good deal. The Olsen twins are also making this school popular and competitive.

Not so hot NYU schools:

Steinhardt School of Ed.=people who study things like communication, nutrition, and nursing…to put it nicely, not the brighest people at NYU. At best, this is an overpriced education since people from these schools tend to go into mediocre occupations. Avoid it if money is an issue, people from other NYU schools consider this school a joke.

GSP=a program for those who were rejected from the NYU school they originally applied to, but for some reason NYU had to let them in (eg. they were kids of rich alumni, athletes, minorities, etc.). So after 2 years of a strict regimented schedule, NYU lets these GSPers transfer to the school they originally wanted to go to. Its a back door into NYU, and everyone knows it.

School of Social Work=why is this even at NYU? I'm not even sure if it actually exists. Nobody knows who these people are.

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I disagree that people will look down at Steinhardt, okay maybe a few programs at steinhardt suck such as the food studies program, but the communications programs and the rest of the programs, studio art, music, etc are top-notch. The education programs are overpriced as well as social work - 30k/year for what. Also, Steinhardt in my opinion (haven't attnended yet) has a more closer feel that CAS, You don't feel as left out like just another nyu student in cas who the deans and whoever don't care or give a hoot. If I go, I'll always have my advisory who will get back to me the following/ next day with any questions. The person above is inaccurate. In Cas you have to take Morse Academic plan for 2 years so GSP while hated, is almost like MAP in a way as people think MAP is a waste. The Communication dept. at NYU was revamped and I know quite a few people who expressed interest in it, if it really sucks let me know

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GSP maybe two years but in some ways its like MAP. Besides steinhardt as a transfer student can take up to 72 credits, maybe its easier to get into, but in steinhardt kids take a lot of CAS classes. I would like a discussion on this You can e-mail me with any advice.

Thanks for this response. i applied to steinhardt for studio art and reading the initial review scared me into thinking i shouldn't have. but in the end an NYU degree is an NYU degree..whether you're in CAS gsp gallatin stern or steinhardt. after speaking with some friends at NYU, [the large majority of] people do NOT look down at people in steinhardt. and you can always internally transfer if it isn't a good fit…

Hi, i'm doing the MA STudio Art next year at NYU Steinhart. Reading the first comment scared me!! As an international student it is hard to know what kind of reputation a school really has. Can anyone advise me more on the MA Studio Art course or Art department in general?? Thanks…

Whats up with the music business program at steinhardt? Is it really a challenge to get into NYU?

Depends on the program, also I advise looking into any scholarship comparisons between schools to see if NYU is best for you. This question reflects steinhardt. Nyu financial aid is tight but with new fundraising they should be able to give more out. I am not sure if steinhardt is has increased their financial aid.

As for challenge,nyu is a selective school although not as selective as some of those really hard schools to get into, aka ivy leagues, private liberal arts schools,etc.

Say about 1/3 of applications get in, although it depends on the program and major. Obviously stern school of business would be much difficult then steinhardt.

What do you think of the LSP program? Has anyone ever been able to transfer to Stern from that program?

How is the public health program?

Hello,
I'm considering applying to the Art Therapy MA at Steinhardt. I'm getting certified in Thanatology (death and bereavement counseling)and think Art Therapy could be complimentary, though I am also considering the counseling program. Does anybody know how the education at Steinhardt is for these majors? Or the job placement/assistance after graduation is from the school? As far as I know Steinhardt is the only NYU with these programs, however if they are looked down on because of the education being mediocre which universities are considered better?

How good is the Steinhardt program in secondary mathematics education? Or in any form of secondary education? How respectable is the Steinhardt education program among local schools (most specifically, NYC or Long Island) Would it be good enough for employment in the NYC Bronx/Brooklyn/Queens high-poverty public schools (once the economy is better…) around 2017? ik manhattan doesn't really hire… Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you so much! :)

The fact that this review generalized steinhardt students as "not the brightest people" displays the fact that the writer of this review is probably not the brightest person.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY AND GO TO STEINHARDT FOR MASTERS DUAL EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM UNLESS YOU LIKE TO THROW YOUR MONEY IN A VERY EXPENSIVE GUTTER. Their Clinical Office is in charge of student teaching and they are horrible and rude. Google the names some of the people in the clinical department, and they have a corrupt past working in NYC DOE. They have brought their dirty habits here and ruining the school. They are terribly unorganized, and the placements are horrific. They put you in the worse schools in NYC to learn how to teach from the worst teachers. You're classmates are not the brightest individuals, I agree. They praise and speak about diversity, but their staff is anything but diverse. The are great at giving your placements a few days before the semester stars. Ask some for the students and horrific their placements are. It doesn't matter if you are a good student or not, it's favor specific school. They place them in their first choice placement, and the rest of us have to take it garbage they give us. They have the worst supervisors for student teaching, they call you on your weekends and belittle you for their own shortcomings all their time because this program is a organizational mess. They send you to low performing schools that fudge grades to meet the performance standards, and when you tell them they don't want to hear it. Basically, you are being mentored by the worst teachers for your student teaching. So many people have had so many problems with their placements, just go their the first to weeks. You see so many stressed out and crying students. The teachers are so unorganized and the classes end early. They can't even put up reading correctly on Blackboard. The lectures are horrible for maybe two or three classes for a 47 credit program. Some teachers forget to bring what the were suppose to lecture and wing the lecture. Imagine if you were student teaching in a poor school, and have to sit in on a unorganized lecture in the evening. It really burns your ass. I wish someone told me I would go to Bank Street, Hunter, or a community college. Your not getting anything different except paying a ridiculous amount of tuition. You need to take more classes in special education because they teach you nothing you can carry over when you teach the real world.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY AND GO TO STEINHARDT FOR MASTERS DUAL EARLY CHILDHOOD PROGRAM UNLESS YOU LIKE TO THROW YOUR MONEY IN A VERY EXPENSIVE GUTTER. Their Clinical Office is in charge of student teaching and they are horrible and rude. Google the names some of the people in the clinical department, and they have a corrupt past working in NYC DOE. They have brought their dirty habits here and ruining the school. They are terribly unorganized, and the placements are horrific. They put you in the worse schools in NYC to learn how to teach from the worst teachers. The put you in schools that teach TC method, so go to Columbia. The progressive methods preach at NYU, you won't see in your placements. You're classmates are not the brightest individuals, I agree. They praise and speak about diversity, but their staff is anything but diverse. The are great at giving your placements a few days before the semester starts, so you can really change. Ask some for the students and horrific their placements are. It doesn't matter if you are a good student or not, it's favor specific students. They place them in their first choice placement, and the rest of us have to take it garbage they give us. They have the worst supervisors for student teaching. They call you on your weekends and belittle you for their own shortcomings. You have seminar to speak about your placements with your supervisor, but they don't want to hear the truth about your placements or give you any advice what to do. This program is a organizational mess. They send you to low performing schools that fudge grades to meet the performance standards, and when you tell them they don't want to hear it. Basically, you are being mentored by the worst teachers for your student teaching. So many people have had so many problems with their placements, just go their the first two weeks. You see so many stressed out and crying students. The teachers are so unorganized and the classes end early. They can't even put up reading correctly on Blackboard. Classes are canceled and never made up, and you have to deal with extra reading and assignments because they can't organize themselves as professors. The lectures are horrible for maybe two or three classes for a 47 credit program. Some teachers forget to bring what the were suppose to lecture and wing the lecture. Imagine if you were student teaching in a poor school, and have to sit in on a unorganized lecture in the evening. It really burns your ass. I wish someone told me. I would go to Bank Street, Hunter, or a community college. Your not getting anything different except paying a ridiculous amount of tuition. You need to take more classes in special education because they teach you nothing you can carry over when you teach the real world. I am saying this because I can.
NYU IS A GREAT SCHOOL BECAUSE I WENT TO CAS, and so are some other divisions. THE ONLY PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE GREAT MA PROGRAMS IS OT, TESOL, BUT NOT THE ONE I WENT TO. I really wished I knew because it was a waste of money to go to school.

How is Steinhardt school for Education Policy Programme? Sociology of education

The fact that you generalize the entire Steinhardt population completely diminishes your credibility. Also, are you really going to correlate the Olsen twin's attendance to the competitiveness of Gallatin and its quality as a school? You must be joking. Also, these "freak" artists may be going to Tisch, but that doesn't mean that the aspiring stars will find a job any easier. In fact, some of the Steinhardt programs lend themselves to more solid educations.

What is the music theatre program like at Steinhardt? Would I be able to double major at Steinhardt for music theatre and Stern for PR?

I'm considering to apply for internal transfer to CAS Economics this year. How good are my chances if I have a decent gpa?

As a response to the comments on Steinhardt: Try teaching a lesson to 26 different little personalities, who either can't sit still or keep their attention on you for more than 5 minutes, getting beat down on with harsh evaluations on your work by your administrators, having the future of your job tied down to high stakes testing when you know damn well your kids come from low-income neighborhoods, their families don't value education like you do, your school lacks a ton of resources that you will eventually have to pay out of pocket, and society looks down on you for not educating kids properly. Now do this for a day and tell me "not bright" Steinhardt kids are. Better yet, do this for one year or more and tell me what it's like. Tell the same thing to close person to me, a graduate of Stern on his way to Wall Street, goes into teaching and enters the NYCDOE. HIs life is changed forever. Do not tell me Steinhardt kids are not the brightest. The comments are as uninformed as this post.

The problem with the response for Steinhardt Early Childhood Ed- Dual Cert. program is that most grad ed programs are exactly the same. I was in TC- Columbia's Elementary Inclusive Ed- Dual Cert program. I experienced pretty much the same things with placements in low-income neighborhoods with similar issues, student teaching placements that students abhorred, tears and such a demanding experience. Student teaching placements were given the day before or even the day of, there was disorganization and breathing TC's philosophy was required or else do poorly in your coursework and placements. Late placements, tough and disorganized schools with poorly trained mentors, disorganized classes, deep tuition price is a grad school of ed problem, not an NYU problem. Late placements are a NYC DOE problem because of constant last minute changes in classrooms. Students are placed in the toughest and often failing schools for a reason. Social justice is the reason. They would hope that we take our education to low-income classrooms and decrease the currently large education gap in NYC classrooms. Poor mentors in the classroom are simply what exist in failing schools. As an educator you have to work your ass off to figure our your way in current mess that is education in the US. Caring so much about the disorganization of a university is the last thing that should be on any teacher's mind. Because you're dealing with much worse once you actually enter the DOE. Those disorganized professors will become your disorganized principals and administrators. No matter how you gain your teacher ed certification, your teacher ed program is a reflection of a failing ed system in the US. This is just the easy part and the beginning. Believe me, you're not going to get a "better" teacher education elsewhere unless education in America and society's perception toward it changes.

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